Comments on: La Shawn Barber: Local liberals learning new lessons on ‘diversity’ http://gaithersblog.net/2007/05/31/la-shawn-barber-local-liberals-learning-new-lessons-on-%e2%80%98diversity%e2%80%99/ Goings on in Gaithersburg, Maryland Fri, 18 May 2012 05:49:13 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.11 by: SilentRider http://gaithersblog.net/2007/05/31/la-shawn-barber-local-liberals-learning-new-lessons-on-%e2%80%98diversity%e2%80%99/#comment-22012 Sun, 10 Jun 2007 03:21:32 +0000 http://gaithersblog.net/2007/05/31/la-shawn-barber-local-liberals-learning-new-lessons-on-%e2%80%98diversity%e2%80%99/#comment-22012 What we need is a National ID Card that positively identifies us as LEGAL US Citizens. Without that card anyone who hires goes to jail. Whether a contractor hiring a drywall hanger, houswife hiring a maid, restaurant owner hiring a dishwasher, mother hiring a nanny, business owner hiring a janitor. As long as there are jobs here and our law enforcement officers have been neutered by politicians who are bought and paid for or deranged ideologues, they will come. They only come here for money, they do not want to be US citizens. So if the money is gone so will they be. Sen. Alan Simpson recently admitted that his 1986 Amnesty Bill passed under Reagan failed when Democrats removed the national id clause. Without the ability to control our borders and with the desire on the part of idiots like our County Council who mandate the payment of benefits to all without consideration for legal status, our nation is bankrupt. So liberals and conservatives alike will be sitting in the third world that used to be the USA. What we need is a National ID Card that positively identifies us as LEGAL US Citizens. Without that card anyone who hires goes to jail. Whether a contractor hiring a drywall hanger, houswife hiring a maid, restaurant owner hiring a dishwasher, mother hiring a nanny, business owner hiring a janitor. As long as there are jobs here and our law enforcement officers have been neutered by politicians who are bought and paid for or deranged ideologues, they will come. They only come here for money, they do not want to be US citizens. So if the money is gone so will they be.

Sen. Alan Simpson recently admitted that his 1986 Amnesty Bill passed under Reagan failed when Democrats removed the national id clause.

Without the ability to control our borders and with the desire on the part of idiots like our County Council who mandate the payment of benefits to all without consideration for legal status, our nation is bankrupt.

So liberals and conservatives alike will be sitting in the third world that used to be the USA.

]]> by: get real http://gaithersblog.net/2007/05/31/la-shawn-barber-local-liberals-learning-new-lessons-on-%e2%80%98diversity%e2%80%99/#comment-21375 Mon, 04 Jun 2007 13:27:01 +0000 http://gaithersblog.net/2007/05/31/la-shawn-barber-local-liberals-learning-new-lessons-on-%e2%80%98diversity%e2%80%99/#comment-21375 What does Ms. Barber suggest should be done? What does Ms. Barber suggest should be done?

]]> by: Toby http://gaithersblog.net/2007/05/31/la-shawn-barber-local-liberals-learning-new-lessons-on-%e2%80%98diversity%e2%80%99/#comment-21221 Sun, 03 Jun 2007 03:33:47 +0000 http://gaithersblog.net/2007/05/31/la-shawn-barber-local-liberals-learning-new-lessons-on-%e2%80%98diversity%e2%80%99/#comment-21221 You're implying that liberals are somehow, by either geographic location or deliberate self-delusion, unaware or unconcerned about the deleterious effects of rampant illegal immigration. That is hardly the case. I am liberal, and I live in downtown Gaithersburg, smack in the middle of one of the most crime-ridden areas in the DC Metro region. My immediate neighborhood is over 80 percent Latino, and I am living with MS-13 on one side street, and Crips and Bloods on the other side. And I have been despairing of this for over a decade, and have been complaining of it, often vociferously. The arguments I get in response from what you would call "liberals" are generally far from delight at the scenario, but at least a plea to be empathetic. On the other hand, the arguments I get from "conservatives" are generally along the lines of either "earn more money so that you can move away from them", or else "this economy wouldn't survive without them, so learn to live with it." And I blame George W. Bush more than just about anything for this, because he completely and unequivocally CAVED-IN on the issue in his entire tenure: sucking up to Vincente Fox, and to the Texas agribusiness and meatpacking interests who profit mightily by illegally employing those people. And none of them, none of them at all, have to live in the middle of it like I do. So, I have no illusion about conservatives having any more "insight" or "truth" about the matter than anyone else. You’re implying that liberals are somehow, by either geographic location or deliberate self-delusion, unaware or unconcerned about the deleterious effects of rampant illegal immigration. That is hardly the case. I am liberal, and I live in downtown Gaithersburg, smack in the middle of one of the most crime-ridden areas in the DC Metro region. My immediate neighborhood is over 80 percent Latino, and I am living with MS-13 on one side street, and Crips and Bloods on the other side.

And I have been despairing of this for over a decade, and have been complaining of it, often vociferously. The arguments I get in response from what you would call “liberals” are generally far from delight at the scenario, but at least a plea to be empathetic. On the other hand, the arguments I get from “conservatives” are generally along the lines of either “earn more money so that you can move away from them”, or else “this economy wouldn’t survive without them, so learn to live with it.”

And I blame George W. Bush more than just about anything for this, because he completely and unequivocally CAVED-IN on the issue in his entire tenure: sucking up to Vincente Fox, and to the Texas agribusiness and meatpacking interests who profit mightily by illegally employing those people.

And none of them, none of them at all, have to live in the middle of it like I do. So, I have no illusion about conservatives having any more “insight” or “truth” about the matter than anyone else.

]]> by: La Shawn http://gaithersblog.net/2007/05/31/la-shawn-barber-local-liberals-learning-new-lessons-on-%e2%80%98diversity%e2%80%99/#comment-20835 Thu, 31 May 2007 14:01:42 +0000 http://gaithersblog.net/2007/05/31/la-shawn-barber-local-liberals-learning-new-lessons-on-%e2%80%98diversity%e2%80%99/#comment-20835 I'm not implying that only liberals live in $400,000 houses or that only liberals are seeing the light after living among illegal aliens of a different culture. I have no doubt that libertarians and conservatives also are waking up from their "slumber." But I'm focusing on liberals because they're typically the ones who preach to others about the value of "diversity" and support legalizing millions of lawbreakers. I’m not implying that only liberals live in $400,000 houses or that only liberals are seeing the light after living among illegal aliens of a different culture. I have no doubt that libertarians and conservatives also are waking up from their “slumber.” But I’m focusing on liberals because they’re typically the ones who preach to others about the value of “diversity” and support legalizing millions of lawbreakers.

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